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		By: vidya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vidya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 03:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thanks for such a good explanation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for such a good explanation</p>
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		By: Adrian S. Nastase		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian S. Nastase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 02:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-44204&quot;&gt;Rebirth&lt;/a&gt;.

It does not work this way. You need to calculate it with the square root of the sum of squares and also the signals have to be uncorrelated. The waveform has to be split in time, not amplitude. Read this article &lt;a href=&quot;https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-calculate-the-rms-value-of-an-arbitrary-waveform/&quot;&gt;MasteringElectronicsDesign.com: How to Calculate the RMS Value of an Arbitrary waveform&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-44204">Rebirth</a>.</p>
<p>It does not work this way. You need to calculate it with the square root of the sum of squares and also the signals have to be uncorrelated. The waveform has to be split in time, not amplitude. Read this article <a href="https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-calculate-the-rms-value-of-an-arbitrary-waveform/">MasteringElectronicsDesign.com: How to Calculate the RMS Value of an Arbitrary waveform</a>.</p>
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		By: Rebirth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebirth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the awesome material, I have a question, I tried to split the shape into a small triangle on the top with a square wave on the bottom, so my equation is like this 

(V2-V1)*sqrt(t1/3T) + V1*sqrt(t1/T) 

but I can&#039;t seem to get the same results as in equation(5), can you tell me what I did wrong? 

Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian,</p>
<p>Thanks for the awesome material, I have a question, I tried to split the shape into a small triangle on the top with a square wave on the bottom, so my equation is like this </p>
<p>(V2-V1)*sqrt(t1/3T) + V1*sqrt(t1/T) </p>
<p>but I can&#8217;t seem to get the same results as in equation(5), can you tell me what I did wrong? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		By: Adrian S. Nastase		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian S. Nastase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2015 08:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-19170&quot;&gt;Philip Thackray&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for letting me know, Phil. I corrected it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-19170">Philip Thackray</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for letting me know, Phil. I corrected it.</p>
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		By: Philip Thackray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Thackray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adrian,

Minor edit - the &quot;squared&quot; symbol is missing in the second equation between equations 2 and 3.

Nice website!
Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Minor edit &#8211; the &#8220;squared&#8221; symbol is missing in the second equation between equations 2 and 3.</p>
<p>Nice website!<br />
Phil</p>
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		By: Adrian S. Nastase		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian S. Nastase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2014 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have t2 in this figure, so tell me exactly at which figure you refer to. Or maybe it is a figure in &lt;a href=&quot;http://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform/&quot; title=&quot;http://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The RMS Value of a Trapezoidal Waveform – Part 1&lt;/a&gt;? Let me know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have t2 in this figure, so tell me exactly at which figure you refer to. Or maybe it is a figure in <a href="http://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform/" title="http://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The RMS Value of a Trapezoidal Waveform – Part 1</a>? Let me know.</p>
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		By: sahitipriya		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sahitipriya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can we think of that trapezoidal wave from as off set trapezoidal waveform? If i find rms values of dc and trapezium (triangle + square of amplitude -v1 from time t2 to T) , there by calaculating resultant rms. Will I get the same result?? Tried Tried , almost tired to get the answer. plz help me out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we think of that trapezoidal wave from as off set trapezoidal waveform? If i find rms values of dc and trapezium (triangle + square of amplitude -v1 from time t2 to T) , there by calaculating resultant rms. Will I get the same result?? Tried Tried , almost tired to get the answer. plz help me out</p>
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		By: Adrian S. Nastase		</title>
		<link>https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-17485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian S. Nastase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-17478&quot;&gt;Michael&lt;/a&gt;.

You have a few question marks that most likely stand for characters that HTML did not understand. Write another post and replace characters like omega or pi with the word &quot;omega&quot; or &quot;pi&quot;, so that I could understand your equations. 

Here is a quick  method to calculate the RMS when a pulse goes through a capacitor C with a load R. The signal will spike up and then decay exponentially to zero with a time constant of tau = RC. Then repeats for the next pulse. Such a decaying function is 

u(t) = Vp*exp(-t/tau), where tau is RC

Calculate this signal RMS by calculating the integral of u(t)^2. The result is 

Vp*(-(1/2T)*tau*exp(-2*t/tau))^2, where Vp is the signal peak and T is the period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/the-rms-value-of-a-trapezoidal-waveform-part-2/#comment-17478">Michael</a>.</p>
<p>You have a few question marks that most likely stand for characters that HTML did not understand. Write another post and replace characters like omega or pi with the word &#8220;omega&#8221; or &#8220;pi&#8221;, so that I could understand your equations. </p>
<p>Here is a quick  method to calculate the RMS when a pulse goes through a capacitor C with a load R. The signal will spike up and then decay exponentially to zero with a time constant of tau = RC. Then repeats for the next pulse. Such a decaying function is </p>
<p>u(t) = Vp*exp(-t/tau), where tau is RC</p>
<p>Calculate this signal RMS by calculating the integral of u(t)^2. The result is </p>
<p>Vp*(-(1/2T)*tau*exp(-2*t/tau))^2, where Vp is the signal peak and T is the period.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How would you calculate the RMS value of an AC - Coupled Square wave under a load.
(basically a differentiator)

I thought it was:

VRMS = Vp *  ?RC/(1+(?^2*R^2*C^2))

where:
 ? = 2?f    (angular frequency)
 C = ac coupled CAP value in Farads
 R = Load in ohms

but the numbers don&#039;t match my results under different &quot;R&quot; loads]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you calculate the RMS value of an AC &#8211; Coupled Square wave under a load.<br />
(basically a differentiator)</p>
<p>I thought it was:</p>
<p>VRMS = Vp *  ?RC/(1+(?^2*R^2*C^2))</p>
<p>where:<br />
 ? = 2?f    (angular frequency)<br />
 C = ac coupled CAP value in Farads<br />
 R = Load in ohms</p>
<p>but the numbers don&#8217;t match my results under different &#8220;R&#8221; loads</p>
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		By: kiran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thnks adrian 
VERY GOOD document and easy to understand]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thnks adrian<br />
VERY GOOD document and easy to understand</p>
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